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Ebola

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rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Anyone else concerned???

This guy was sent home...symptomatic for 4 days! He exposed up to 18 people, probably more. Now they're testing a second person who may be infected. I understand they're telling us you can only get Ebola from coming in contact with bodily fluids, but they're ALSO not ruling out the chance this virus could mutate and become airborne!

Also, saw an eye witness on the news state that he threw up in the parking lot of the apartment complex. Who cleaned up that CONTAGIOUS BODILY FLUID??? Remember, this was BEFORE they got the positive test results. Surely the CDC has isolated the person or people who cleaned up that mess!

I'm not normally a germ-a-phobe, but this has me a little rattled; especially with it being here in Texas!

Opinions...reassurances...outrage??? 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

I honestly don't know if I should be concerned yet, or not, but I'm definitely following what's going on.

I heard on the news earlier that they're watching over 100 people who may have come in contact with him.

Sounds like someone at the hospital in Dallas dropped the ball when they sent him home the first time ... might've had a better chance of containing it if they'd followed CDC instructions. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

It was also on the news earlier that he lied on his exit paperwork before leaving Liberia.

Apparently one of the questions asked something like;

Have you been in contact with anyone infected with Ebola in the past ----- days?

Too which he answered "no", even though only days before he helped several Ebola infected persons ... all of who died.

Now, Liberia is saying they are going to prosecute him for lying on the exit documents if he returns to Liberia ... provided he survives. 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Too which he answered "no", even though only days before he helped several Ebola infected persons ... all of who died.

Make you wonder if he came here on purpose to get better medical care. :/ 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

^^^ I'd bet a buck that you're right ^^^ 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Not saying the video I'm posting is going to happen, but History Channel thought it was important enough to produce.

 

TexasOma (Mod) --- 8 years ago -


Make you wonder if he came here on purpose to get better medical care. :/?



ISIS says they will be infecting their own people and sending them here to infect Americans. What's to say this wasn't on purpose? I know that sounds paranoid, maybe even conspiracy theorist...but they are not telling all.

If Ebola (or, according to SheJac, Eboller) is only spread by bodily fluids, why are the medical professionals so garbed up? Never in my nursing career did I have to wear such protection when I dealt with patients in isolation.

They are playing this down. I listened to Rush this morning and he said Ebola is a death nail to Obama's amnesty promise. That the open border policy the dem/libs want leave the door wide open to any and all diseases. The citizens will not want what he's going to write the executive order for after the election in November. They need to keep this Ebola problem displayed.

I'm surprised they haven't blamed Bush for bringing this here. If you can podcast today's show, it's worth listening. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

They are playing this down

That's typical of the Obama administration playbook.

He downplays everything and then when things go south, he blames it either on Bush, or someone else in the administation, if the "blame it on Bush" card doesn't work.

You'd think that after 6 years, Obama would suck it up and admit that he doesn't have a clue what the &#@* he is doing.

Practically everyone one of his former Cabinet members have come out and said so ... 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Well, here's the answer to the vomit.



Still shot - notice the lady in sandals with the run off near her feet!

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Pepper --- 8 years ago -

^^^ If she stepped in it, she's infected ^^^ 

TexasOma (Mod) --- 8 years ago -

No, no, no --- it's not that easy to get!!! They told us so!!!

We must believe what we were told....they wouldn't lie to us!!! 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

No, no, no --- it's not that easy to get!!! They told us so!!!

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Seriously, I'm increasing our hygiene practices. Washing hands, hand sanitizer and plenty of immune boosting stuff on hand. That's one advantage we as a culture (Americans) have, better personal hygiene and sanitation practices. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

It's now being reported that they had to post "armed guards" at the apartment his family lives in, to keep them from violating the quarantine order.

Apparently they were coming and going despite the order.

Dumb, dumb, dumb ... 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

I guess we'll know if our concerns are warranted in about 21 days.

Don't mean to sound like an alarmist, but it might not be a bad idea to prepare like an hurricane is coming. If this spreads you may want to shelter-in-place and ride out the pandemic!

BTW ~ A patient with ebola symptoms has been admitted to Howard Hospital in D.C. Testing is still pending to confirm. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

^^^

It's being reported that one of the Healthcare Workers that had contact with Duncan, in Dallas, has tested positive for Ebola. 

FANCY PANTS --- 8 years ago -

Make you wonder if he came here on purpose to get better medical care.

Of course he came here for better medical care. Our borders will be flooded with people who want better health care and BO will say there is nothing he can do about it.

It's being reported that one of the Healthcare Workers that had contact with Duncan, in Dallas, has tested positive for Ebola.?

Today in church the lady in front of us was hacking and coughing so we went and stood at the back of the church. I know there have been no cases in our area but there might be and we just don't know it yet. After reading that a medical worker in Dallas now has it, I don't feel so hyper for moving. You know that the medical worker had the best of protection so how did this spread to her. They say it is hard to get. I think they are lying. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

I think they are lying

I have zero confidence in anything the government tells us ...

I would have moved, too. 

TexasOma (Mod) --- 8 years ago -

Watch for more cases. When he first reported at the hospital, he was already contaminated. No medical person greets a new patient with full garb, they are assessed then diagnosed. That first visit, Ebola was not suspected, so no one garbed up. Expect more and widespread. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

I'm surprised the family has not been diagnosed. As Angie said, girlfriend probably had 'Welcome to America' sex those first few days. Is there a cover up on them, media sure has been silent, like they never existed.

You cannot tell me they have not come down with it first. The kind, generous person donated his isolated home to the family...are they bring housed there instead of a hospital. That's what they are now doing in Africa...a new way of isolating the ill. We have heard nada about the family recently. Kinda makes you wonder what's going on. 

FANCY PANTS --- 8 years ago -

I'm surprised the family has not been diagnosed. As Angie said, girlfriend probably had 'Welcome to America' sex those first few days. Is there a cover up on them, media sure has been silent, like they never existed.


I think you guys are right. They do not really want us to know how many are infected.

I have watched them come out of the tent fully garbed up head to toe. Then someone else fully garbed up head to toe sprays them down with disinfectant. Even the bottom of their shoes get sprayed. You can not tell me that we have been told the truth of how easily it spreads. It seems to me that if it is not air born med. staff should not even need a mask. 

TexasOma (Mod) --- 8 years ago -

They need at least a face shield and mask to protect from spew...cough, sneeze, vomit, spit, tears, blood, diarrhea, pee, wound exudate. All kinds of ways body fluids can reach the facial area.

Yes, it's gross, but fact.

When I had isolation patients I would wear what was required for that type contamination. Sometimes I would wear head covering, facial shield, respirator mask, gown, double gloves. Never had to wear for videos, but they were in the isolation anti-room if we needed them. We would required to enter and exit the patient's room thru the isolation room and de-garb in the isolation area, roll the stuff inside out, place in red box, wash up in that room, then go out to the real world to care for our other 5 patients.

We didn't get less patients because we had an extra time patient, we just had to deal with it. 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

I had forgotten about Duncan's family in Dallas and you're right, nobody is talking about them.

I'd be interested to know if they tested postive for Ebola, or tested negative. 

Froggie --- 8 years ago -

This really makes me worry about my youngest DD who is in her final year of RN school. Ugh

FANCY PANTS --- 8 years ago -

cough, sneeze,

That makes it air born doesn't it? 

TexasOma (Mod) --- 8 years ago -

Technically, yes. If the cough or sneeze does not expel any mucous then it shouldn't be contagious, but how many coughs and sneezes result in no discharge. Even if the person covers his mouth, the hand or tissue becomes contaminated.

They can say what they want about it not easily spread.... They are only trying to prevent a mass hysteria.

For the you and me and all our friends & family members, avoid strangers who are sick, keep your hands washed, especially in public. Don't panic.

Froggie, your daughter will be OK if she follows the protocols taught her for isolation patients. 

AngieKaye --- 8 years ago -

cough, sneeze,

That makes it air born doesn't it?



yes they have determined it can live for several hours on an open surface. CDC even said that today. But then back tracked by saying its not airborne.

Like I have said Birdflu was first told not to be airborne and would never be. Guess what they lied, it is airborne and has always been.

How to you think animals get it? There is also people that have strong antibodies in their system, while most dont. I have up'd my intake on vitamins and keeping antibacterial lotions everywhere. I also use it on my face as well has hands.

Someone mentioned about mosquitoes. can they help spread it? And are they only going to test those that have visited or traveled in affected areas? Or will they now test everyone with flu symptoms? 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Someone mentioned about mosquitoes. can they help spread it? And are they only going to test those that have visited or traveled in affected areas? Or will they now test everyone with flu symptoms?

Excellent question. At this point, I don't have much trust or confidence in the CDC! Praying for our health care personnel, border patrol officers, and airline workers! They're on the front line and are working with (IMO) faulting or misleading information.

I've been slathering on the Thieves oil!
(Yes, I'm one of "those" people. I figured it worked for grave robbers during the Black Plague.)

I keep hearing from "experts" outside the CDC that our society is WAY over due for a true pandemic. Think the Influenza Outbreak in 1917!!! (I lost my great grandfather to that frightening event.)

I'm not saying this is "IT", but we've overly abused antibiotics and there's some seriously scary mutations going on. Stay diligent and don't panic.

Franklin Graham (son of Billy Graham) and Dr. Lance Plyler are with Samaritan's Purse. They're organization is on the front line of the Ebola epidemic in Africa! The doctor who contracted Ebola was one of theirs! Check out their interview with Glenn Beck. It's EXTREMELY eye-opening; especially Dr. Plyler's take on this scary disease!!!

Graham / Plyler interview w/ Beck 

AuthorMan (Mod) --- 8 years ago -

Ebola can take 22-27 days to be symptomatic.

Allowing people (not the healthcare workers trying to get home) to enter this country given this fact is NOT showing concern for the welfare of the citizens of the US!

Everything the prez said would not happen has happened. Not being an alarmist- just a realist who gives a damn! 

AngieKaye --- 8 years ago -

you both hit the nail on the head. Specially the part about Obummer. Everything he says we need to take as opposite. That man has told so many lies he wouldn't know the truth if it hit him in the head.

Between the Ebola and the lung disease/polio that is effecting our nations children (just had the 4th child die last night) our country is going to hell in a haybasket fast! Top that with our economy is busted, stock market is close to a crash soon and ISIS just took over a training airforce camp in Iran. then you have Ferguson MO going nuts! I predict it will be another detroit very soon.

Like I have said before Costa Rica is looking better and better every day! 

rightwingmom --- 8 years ago -

Excellent common sense approach to the Ebola concern.

10 Things You Should Know About Ebola at The Survival Mom 

Pepper --- 8 years ago -

A second healthcare worker from the same hospital in Dallas that helped take care of Duncan has tested positive for Ebola.

It's beginning to sound like that hospital was not prepared to handle Ebola cases.

I hope they make a full recovery ... 

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